Can office buildings from the 1970s and 80s–often dismissed as “garbage”—be the key to solving the US housing crisis?
While conventional wisdom says these deep-floor-plate structures are “useless” and that we need to “scrape” them all, Robert Seldin, Managing Principal of Madison Highland and developer of the Three Collective complex in Falls Church, Virginia, has proven the skeptics wrong. In this episode timed to appear before the AFIRE Winter Conference tours Three Collective, AFIRE CEO Gunnar Branson explores the right way to convert office to residential, and how one “impossible” asset became profitable.
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Seldin is the Managing Principal of Madison Highland and developer of Three Collective:
https://www.threecollective.com/
Madison Highland is a developer of Three Collective:
https://www.threecollective.com/
KEY MOMENTS
00:00 – Are 1970s office buildings too “useless” to convert?
02:30 – What makes a mid-century office building a good “substrate” for housing?
04:37 – How do you solve deep floor plate issues in office-to-residential conversions?
07:02 – Why is converted office space higher quality than new wood-frame construction?
10:02 – How can you repurpose extra office elevators during a conversion?
13:43 – Do office-to-residential conversions have enough parking?
18:40 – How is remote work changing multifamily building requirements?
22:35 – What is the cost and timeline for an office-to-apartment conversion?
26:38 – How fast do converted office apartments lease up?
28:10 – Is the office conversion trend the new “Soho Loft” revolution using for today?
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