AFIRE Podcast #38: What Happens Next?

(Featuring Dror Poleg, Author, Rethinking Real Estate, Co-Chair, Urban Land Institute, Tech and Innovation Council, Co-Founder, Real Innovation Academy)

Over the last several years, there has been significant change in the real estate industry—and the pandemic has served to kick that evolution into high gear. So what happens next?

While some sectors—such as industrial and housing—have shown increased promise through and beyond this current advanced moment in the pandemic, some of the real changes in “core” assets might not become clear for several years.

In this newest episode of the AFIRE Podcast—the first of two special conversations with Dror Poleg, author of Rethinking Real Estate and Co-Chair of the Tech & Innovation Council at ULI—we dive into what happens next for these once-stable sectors, including office buildings and other real estate integral to the apparent cohesion of the central business districts before the pandemic.

As large companies seek new forms of flexibility for how they use their space, and how their employees utilize that space, they’re also reimagining the services they provide—and the services they need in order to make these changes possible. According to Poleg, we’re just at the beginning.

Listen below or on your favorite podcast service (Apple, Google, Spotify) for the full episode.


Dror Poleg is the author of Rethinking Real Estate, Co-Chair of The Urban Land Institute’s Tech & Innovation Council in New York, and Co-Founder of Real Innovation Academy.

In books, articles, classes, and talks, Dror explores the impact of technology on where and how people live, work, and socialize. He regularly briefs, advises, and teaches senior executives from multibillion-dollar companies such as UBS, Goldman Sachs, AvalonBay Communities, British Land, Liberty Mutual, Dubai Holding, Cushman & Wakefield, and others.

Dror holds a Masters in Economic History from the London School of Economics and a BA in Media & Communications from Swinburne University of Technology. He has taught and spoken at events by The University of Zurich, Harvard Graduate School of Design, The University of Colorado, The Wharton School, and The City University of New York.  

Previously, Dror served as Vice President of Kardan Land, where he oversaw the expansion of a $3b property portfolio in partnership with investors such as Blackrock MGPA and Frasers Properties; as CEO of, a social media startup; and as Head of Digital at Standards Group, a creative agency that served clients such as IKEA, Scandinavian Airlines, and Shangri La Hotels.




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