AFIRE Podcast: AFIRE Goes to EXPO REAL (ep. 2022.16)

AFIRE recently made our annual return to Munich, Germany, for EXPO REAL, the largest trade fair for real estate and investment in Europe since its formation in 1998.

As the world continues to recover from COVID and adjust for broad global uncertainty, we sat down with several members to get an outlook on global investment as it stands right now.


Audrey Klein, Chair of the ESG Committee, Planet Smart City

Audrey Klein has held Head of Fundraising roles at several firms but is best known for starting the European business out of London for the Park Hill Real Estate Group, a Division of Blackstone. Prior to joining Park Hill, she ran her own business marketing alternative asset funds across all asset classes to European investors comprised of pension funds, banks, family offices. She serves as the ESG Chair for SFO Capital and Planet Smart City.

Will McIntosh, Global Head of Research, USAA Real Estate

Will McIntosh serves as Global Head of Research for USAA Real Estate. Will is responsible for developing the commercial real estate investment strategy and manages the firm’s global research platform that informs and enhances the real estate investment process. He is a member of the firm’s Investment Committee.

Joao Nuno Madeira de Andrade, Board Member, Fidelidade Property

Joao Andrade serves as board member for Fidelidade Property, which is part of Fidelidade, a Portuguese insurance company that was established in the early nineteenth century, headquartered in Lisbon. Fidelidade is a subsidiary of Fosun International and is a leader in the domestic Portuguese market, providing life and non-life products for both individuals and companies.

Tedd Willcocks, President and CEO, Triovest

Ted Willcocks is the President and Chief Executive Officer of Triovest. Ted brings more than 25 years of diverse international experience in commercial real estate, having held a series of increasingly senior positions with CBRE, Brookfield Properties, and most recently, Manulife. For the last several years, he led the development and implementation of the real estate strategy for Manulife Investment Management, overseeing portfolio management, asset management and development in Canada, the United States, Australia and Asia, accelerating the growth of its Private Markets business.

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